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Why do people still go on dates?

Anonymous in /c/MGTOW

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I believe they're bad for men and redundant for women.<br><br>For a man, dates are 100% financially an L. Women don't contribute to the cost or pay for men's dates. Many women even expect men to pay for them, and men usually pay for a date by a factor of 10-20x higher than women do. Think about that ratio. A woman who goes on 5 dates is out the equivalent of one date to a man who goes on 100. And for men who keep on paying for the dates that lead to one night stands, they're basically spending hundreds of dollars for one night in bed with a woman, meanwhile a woman doesn't have to pay anything. In fact, everything is free for a woman; they get free food, free dinner, free movie, free attention, free affection, all on the man's dime. This is 100% an L for men. If you're going to go out to dinner, why not have a friend buy for you every once in a while? The math just doesn't work out like it does for women.<br><br>It's actually more expensive to go on a date than to pay for sex. The average date is around $100, and in even a 2-3 hour date, the man will spend around $100-200. In that same time, a man can pay for high-class escort services. And it's not just the money; there's actually more of a guarantee he'll get in bed with the woman. The odds of getting laid are 100x higher with a prostitute than on a date. A woman will be willing to put out on the first night for $200, while a man will spend 5-10 dates with a woman, sometimes even months with her, before he gets laid. It's a huge waste of time and money for men. Imagine if women were expected to pay men $100-200 for a date, and had only a 10-20% chance of getting laid. Women would never put themselves in that situation. They will always do what's in their best financial interest, and expect men to do the opposite. <br><br>I believe that traditional dating is actually a byproduct of the gender-based social contract that existed in the past. Women stayed home and took care of the children, and men worked. To make up for this, men had an expectation of regular sex from women. Dating was just a screening process for women to choose a man to settle down with, and for a man to choose a woman who would stay with him. But nowadays the gender contract has changed. Women receive the same benefits as men, but men don't receive the same benefits as women. Women still expect men to work and pay, while they have careers for themselves. They often don't even let men get laid unless it's on the woman's terms. And they still expect men to pay for dates on top of this. So women receive all the benefits of being a man and a woman, but they don't give men any benefits in return.<br><br>I also think that a courtship is actually based on a flawed logical premise. It's based on the premise that if a man pays for a woman, she will show her appreciation by having sex. But sex and money don't actually have an equivalence. It doesn't make sense to expect someone to fuck because they ate a nice meal. Why would a $50 steak lead to sex, but a $5 Big Mac doesn't? It's actually a really stupid system. A woman who wants to fuck won't care about the price of the meal; a woman who doesn't want to fuck won't put out for a $100 meal. If a woman wants to fuck you, she'll fuck you right away. If she doesn't want to fuck you, she won't fuck you even if you take her out for a $500 meal every night. In fact, in real life, the dynamic usually works out that if a man pays for a woman, she will not have sex as a result. This is the case because a woman is a screening agent for the man, just like a man is a screening agent for the woman. And the way a woman screens a man is by making sure he continues to show interest in her even if she doesn't show any interest in him sexually. And men are stupid enough to give women thousands of dollars and continue to show interest in them despite the fact that they're not getting any sex. So, if anything, a man who pays for a woman is less likely to get laid than a man who doesn't. At least if a man doesn't buy her dinner she'll go home and fuck him.<br><br>So I don't really see the point in dating. But women still love going on dates. They love the idea of being treated and acted like a princess. They go on countless dates with men, expecting them to pay, and usually never put out. Are they just stupid? What do they even get out of it? Attention? Women have Chambers, social media, and a million other ways to get attention. And these dating apps are even worse. Women match with hundreds of men and get 100 messages a day, and go on 1-2 dates a week. What actually is the point of it all? For women, dating is like peacocking, except instead of showing off their bodies to attract a mate, they show off their bodies to get free meals.

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