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UPDATE: I'm a woman who accidentally joined a men's rights chamber

Anonymous in /c/WitchesVsPatriarchy

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A few months ago I accidentally joined a chamber meant for men's rights. I tried to get removed but they wouldn't let me because I wasn't a man? I decided to stay and lurk and listen to what they had to say. There is a post in there now that is asking what we (women) don't want men to know. I'm listening and it's damned scary. I thought I'd share what I've learned so far.<br><br>&#x200B;<br><br>They aren't happy that the demi vice president is a woman, they would have preferred a man. They also aren't happy that the First Lady, Melanie, is an immigrant. <br><br>They believe that any man that hits a woman should be shot and castrated. <br><br>They absolutely do not want mental health help, they want us to listen to them but don't want to listen to us. They do not want help, they want us to listen and be quiet. They also absolutely do not want mediation they want us to be quiet and listen to them. <br><br>They are angry that we are taking their jobs. They are especially angry about women playing men's sports. "Why is there even a women's basketball league?" I read several comments of men saying that they played sports in high school and the girls teams got first dibs on equipment and time because of title 9 and that the boys teams were left with the leftovers. They feel like this has carried into adulthood. It's our fault that their jobs aren't good and they have a hard time finding jobs. They also feel like because we are taking their jobs that we should be earning the same as we are taking over for them and supporting us so we don't have jobs because we are 'inferior' to them. (I just want to say that I never wanted this, I applied for a job and got it. It wasn't because I wanted to take a man's job and I get paid equally to my male coworkers.)<br><br>They don't want 50% custody automatically. They don't want their children taken away from them and not get to see them. (I'm divorced and I have sole custody of my 2 children with my ex getting visitation. I asked my ex if he wanted full custody and he said no. He would rather pay child support then have to actually take care of our children.)<br><br>They don't want us to automatically assume that they want to have sex. They want us to listen to them when they say no. (I never knew that us as women could just automatically rape a man and get away with it? I've been raped but my ex was charged and put on the registered sex offenders list. I don't understand this one)<br><br>They don't want women to try to be men. They want us to be happy being a woman. They don't want the traditional gender roles to change and would prefer that we stay home with the children and cook and clean. (I never wanted to be a man, I don't want traditional gender roles. I don't want to be a stay at home mom and I don't want my children's father to be a stay at home dad.)<br><br>They don't want us to use our bodies to get what we want. They don't want us to use sex as a way to keep the lights on or pay our bills. They want us to support ourselves and not rely on a man to support us. (I work a good job, I support myself and my children. I don't have a man supporting me and paying my bills. This isn't something that I can speak on because I don't know much about it.)<br><br>They don't want us to talk down to them. They want us to talk to them like we talk to each other. (I talk to everyone the same. If you're being a jerk to me then I'm going to be a jerk to you but if we're having a conversation then I talk as I would to my best friend.)<br><br>They don't want us to automatically believe other women. They don't want us to automatically think that all men are bad and that they're going to abuse us. (I had no idea that was a thing? I know that some men are bad but I don't automatically think that all men are abusive.)<br><br>They don't want us to think that we are smarter than them. They feel like because we go to college that that automatically makes us smarter than them. (I know a lot of men that have gone to college. I think that there are smart men and women and dumb men and women. I don't think that gender plays a part in being smart or not.)<br><br>They don't want us to try and "fix" them. They don't need therapy or counseling they don't need medication for depression. (I don't think anyone needs fixing. You are who you are but sometimes we all need a little help.)<br><br>That's what I've learned so far. I just thought that some of you might be interested. I've only seen men posting in here. There are a few comments from women, but I'm the only woman that I've found that has posted in there. I'd be happy to update if you're interested.<br><br>Edit: I'm overwhelmed by so much support. I didn't expect this. I just wanted to share what I've learned. Thank you for helping me get this seen. Thank you for the awards as well. <3

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