I've been seeing a lot of post lately trying to associate MGTOW with Incels. I'm here to set the record straight.

Hello, I'm a highschooler who just so happens to be on the MGTOW side of the gender war spectrum. I don't have a source for this, but I've been seeing a lot of posts all over the internet (Chambers, Instagram, tiktok, etc.) that are obviously Pro women/feminist that are claiming that MGTOW and incels are the same thing. Since I'm young, and the gender war has only gotten progressively worse since I became aware of it back in 2015, I have seen the MGTOW community do a 180 in terms of community wide perspective/opinion. Back in the day (2010-2016), in the comments of Paul Elam's videos on youtube, you would see a large amount of MGTOW who were also Pro women/feminist. They would say that women are treated like objects and that feminism could fix the problems between men and women. They were wrong of course, and it is now universally known that feminism is a hate movement. Now, even though our views have changed, the feminist movement has recently decided that MGTOW and incels are the same thing. This makes no sense, and if you actually took the time to read the 3 Tenets of MGTOW, you would know this. The 3 Tenets of MGTOW are: <br>1. MGTOW recognize the problems in modern society and have chosen to bow out of the dating scene in order to prevent becoming wall hit/familyless/a simp.<br>2. We are not going to change society, so we will adapt to the environment that we have chosen not to participate in.<br>3. We are creating a new system where men are no longer subservient to women.<br>This movement is not about hating women, this movement is about not being a slave to women. Not participating in a system that you have no stake in. Not being a part of a system that is built to fail us, we are creating a better system for us, not them. So, we aren't Incels. They are angry that women have no interest in them because they aren't high value. We are just men that know what our worth is, and refuse to settle for a system that is built on misandry and psychopathy.<br><br>Edit: I just wanted to say thanks for the support guys. I've received a lot of hate from feminist and I'm glad we can all be men of value together ?