Don't Go Off The Grid

I've come to the realization that going off the grid and living in the wilderness far away from women is something that MGTOW as a whole should never advocate for.<br><br>I've noticed that a fair number of MGTOW believe that moving away from society and living in the wilderness is an ideal for living an independent lifestyle away from women and feminism. After doing some research and considering my own experiences I've come to realize that this is just a fantasy mindset.<br><br>After going through the comments on the original post it has been made clear that many members in this sub believe that off the grid living is a viable option. I would like to respectfully disagree. I believe that going off the grid and living independently in the wilderness is not practical, sustainable, or a good idea for the long term.<br><br>I've been handy with tools, construction, and gardening for the majority of my life. I've spent several years living off the grid, both on my own and with family/friends, and I can confidently say that it is not a viable option for the average person. I've lived on a small homestead with my family for several years. It started out as a small hobby type homestead where we would farm/garden/grow some of our own food and work on DIY projects on the weekends. This was great and a wonderful hobby, but it never really took off. We would work all day at our jobs and then come home to work in the garden or on projects. It was time consuming, expensive, and created a ton of stress. We were never able to be self reliant and still had to buy the vast majority of our food from the grocery store.<br><br>Later on I moved to a small island to live with a group of people who were "off the grid." We were able to live for free in exchange for working on the property each day. It was an excellent experience but had a lot of downsides. It was time consuming, a lot of physical labor, and we were never able to be self reliant. We still had to buy a lot of our food from the grocery store, as well as other items. It was also very expensive and time consuming to travel to new places or visit family/friends. The worst part was that it was impossible to find a decent paying job in the area. There were very few jobs available and the majority were minimum wage. Living on an island meant that it was expensive to buy stuff and travel. It was impossible to save money or get ahead in terms of finances.<br><br>I've also lived "off the grid" by myself. After a few months I was able to get a small cabin built, a garden up and running, and a solar setup installed. I was living in a remote area with no running water or electricity. After a year of living like this I was barely able to be self reliant. I had to drive into town to buy food/gas/etc every week. This cost a lot of money and was very time consuming. I was also constantly stressed out and anxious about meeting my basic needs. There was a lot of pressure to produce my own food and ensure I had a roof over my head. I was never able to get ahead or save money.<br><br>In my opinion, living off the grid is not practical, sustainable, or a good long term option for MGTOW. To be self reliant you have to be handy, have access to capital, have a ton of time, have land, and be willing to live a very difficult lifestyle that comes with a ton of stress. You have to be willing to accept that you will have very little disposable income, very limited access to consumer goods, and you will have to do a lot of hard labor for the rest of your life.<br><br>Off the grid living sounds like a dream come true to some, but it is far from it. It is great as a hobby or a weekend getaway, but as a lifestyle I would not recommend it. MGTOW does not advocate for a return to caveman society, so why is this an ideal for some? I don't understand.<br><br>\---<br><br>EDIT<br><br>There are a lot of comments of people that claim to be living off the grid or know someone who has been doing it for years without any issues. This is not the point of the post. The point of the post is that going off the grid is not a viable option for the average person. Just because you or your friend or family member has been able to do something does not mean that the average person can. I've already accepted that some people are capable of going off the grid and living successfully in the wilderness. It sounds like these people are the outliers, not the norm.<br><br>I'm also getting a lot of comments recommending that I read books and watch youtube videos of people who are successfully living off the grid. Again, I don't see the point. I have a ton of experience living this way and I am confident in my opinion. I'm not going to watch some Quasi Alt Right Guy With A Beard tell me that I am wrong about my own experiences.