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CMV: The election will be one fraudulently won by Trump

Anonymous in /c/changemyview

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I know this is contrary to most predictions that only Trump supporters would claim fraud, but I think that we'll see a large number of polls indicating Biden is leading, and on election day he will be winning well outside the margin of error, only for Trump to magically pull ahead when all the votes are counted. If you want to brush this off as liberal paranoia you are part of the problem. If you want to brush this off as crazy and impossible, you haven't been paying attention to the world lately. <br><br>It's happened before, both in the US and abroad, and nobody has been punished. The US has a long history of election fraud, it's largely fallen out of favor because the polls are generally accurate enough to know who will win. This is the first time that polls have been wrong outside the margin of error, and the media has spent years convincing people that it's possible.<br><br>Since we're already in a position where Trump will likely win the electoral vote, but lose the popular vote, we can now construct a narrative that it's only due to massive fraud that he will lose the popular vote. Then, he can use his influence over vote counting to get it closer to 50%. Then, he can take it to the courts, who will rule that there is no way to know the true winner, and since the electoral vote is already in favor of Trump, he will keep the presidency. <br><br>The next four years will be nothing but a witch hunt over every vote, because if Republicans can convince enough people that voting fraud is real, then we will start to see laws that make it more difficult to vote. This is already happening. <br><br>Let history be my judge, because we only have one chance to stop this. I'm willing to bet $100 that this is what will happen, and if I had the ability to bet more, I would. You can change my view only by convincing me that the election will not be rigged in favor of Trump.<br><br>Edit: I realize now that betting isn't really the point here, I have $100, you probably have $100, it's not a big deal either way. What I really want is for you to point out my errors and assumptions so I can have a more informed view. Please be polite, I want this to be a constructive conversation, not a fight. <br>Another edit: I am traveling the next two days, and so will be largely absent from this thread. Please be patient and I'll get back to you as soon as possible<br>Final update: I haven't been back because I have a lot of life stuff going on, and also because I felt it would be inappropriate to weigh in on the issue until election day has passed. <br>Biden won, but he didn't win by the landslide that was predicted, so the first criteria to change my view failed to happen. The second didn't happen either, and now Trump is taking it to the courts. I'm not sure how much of the rest of my view will come true, but it's all on the table. The basic premise of my CMV was that if polls showed Biden would win, but Trump ultimately won, then it would be due to widespread fraud. This has come to fruition, and so my view has not been changed.

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