If Ukraine actually wins this war, how will we view Russian losses in hindsight?
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If Ukraine wins this war, I think the history of this war is going to be very different from what is currently widely believed. There are many popular claims about the war that are widely considered true, but if Ukraine wins, they will likely be viewed as Russian propaganda or wishful thinking.<br><br>For example, if Ukraine wins, I think the history of this war is going to be very different from what is currently widely believed. Many take it for granted that Russia had a well-oiled war machine and that Ukraine will eventually run out of steam and supplies, and lose the war. But if Ukraine wins, it will likely be seen as having had superior logistics and supplies, and momentum. We will likely not hear that Russia had a powerful army that ultimately ran out of steam, but rather that Russia exhausted its resources very quickly, and Ukraine, on the other hand, had superior logistics, and momentum.<br><br>There are many other claims about the war that are now widely believed but will likely be viewed as Russian propaganda or wishful thinking if Ukraine wins:<br><br>1) If Ukraine wins, I think Russia will be viewed as having lost even more soldiers than Ukraine, not less, and certainly not 10 times less. If Ukraine wins, we will likely learn that Ukraine had more than double the losses that Russia had, not the other way around. It would be very strange for a country that wins a war to have lost more soldiers than the country that loses it. I think we will likely learn that Ukraine has actually lost at least 150,000-200,000 soldiers, not 70,000-100,000 as people claim, and that Russia lost at least 300,000-400,000, not 200,000-250,000 as people claim.<br><br>2) If Ukraine wins, we will likely learn that Ukraine had far superior and more modern military equipment than Russia, not inferior equipment. We will likely learn that Ukraine had more modern and superior tanks, drones, guns, and other equipment, not inferior Russian equipment.<br><br>3) If Ukraine wins, it will likely be proven that the Russian army is extremely dysfunctional, corrupt, and clueless. Is it conceivable for a "powerful" army to lose to a supposedly "inferior" army? If Russia loses the war, it will likely be seen as having done everything wrong, and Ukraine will be seen as having done everything right. There will be no credit given to Russia, and all the blame will be put on them for losing whatever momentum they had.<br><br>4) If Ukraine wins, it will likely be proven that Ukraine had far superior air power and air defense than Russia, not inferior air power and air defense. If Ukraine wins, it will likely be seen as having been able to adequately defend its skies and cities from Russian bombing, and having been able to successfully bomb Russian cities and troops, not inferior air power and air defense.<br><br>5) If Ukraine wins, the war will likely be seen as having been decided long before it ended, not an interminable war decided by a knife's edge. If Ukraine wins, we will likely learn that Russia had already lost the war by early 2023, not that the war was some sort of knife's edge, back and forth fight.<br><br>6) If Ukraine wins, we will likely never hear that Russia had some sort of "plan" to win the war in the long run, not lose it. If Ukraine wins, we will likely never be told that Russia was playing the long game, and that it knew it would endure enormous losses in the short run to win in the long run. We will likely only hear that Russia was very clueless, and it never had any coherent plan to win the war.<br><br>7) If Ukraine wins, the war will likely be seen as having been decided by logistics, not by Ukraine's valiant fighting. If Ukraine wins, we will likely learn that the Russian army was deeply dysfunctional, corrupt, and clueless, and that Ukraine was able to supply itself far better and more adequately than Russia, not that Ukraine's heroic fighting is what won the war.<br><br>8) If Ukraine wins, the war will likely be seen as having been largely decided by foreign intervention, not Ukrainian bravery. If Ukraine wins, we will likely learn that the U.S. and other Western powers supplied Ukraine with most of the supplies and equipment that it used to win the war, not that Ukraine was able to bravely defeat the Russian army on its own.<br><br>For example, thinking about World War II, if Nazi Germany had won the war, do you think we would have been told that the Soviet Union lost 20 million soldiers, not 27 million? Or that the Soviet Union had inferior military equipment, not superior equipment? Or that Nazi Germany "played the long game" and endured huge losses in the short run to win in the long run? Or that Nazi Germany was able to adequately defend its skies and cities from Soviet bombing, not inferior air power and air defense? Or that the Soviet Union had inferior logistics, not superior logistics? Or that the Soviet Union fought a valiant fight, but ultimately lost to Nazi Germany's superior might? Or that the Soviet Union lost because it was inferior to Nazi Germany in every way, not because Nazi Germany was inferior to the Soviet Union in every way? Do you think that historians would have been so eager to put a rosy spin on Nazi Germany's war effort and downplay its losses, if it had won the war? But if Ukraine wins this war, there will be no rosy spin on Russia's war effort, and there will be no attempt to downplay its losses.
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