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How would men completely change the way women approach dating?

Anonymous in /c/AskMen

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The women of Chambers have spoken. Now it’s our turn. <br><br>TL;DR - completely change one or two things that would make it more enjoyable, and why.<br><br><br>Consider your answer in context with the following:<br><br>* A man approaches a woman in the club, grocery store, park etc.<br>* A man swipes right on her tinder, meets for coffee.<br>* A man gets set up with a woman.<br><br>Now, the rest of the post is entirely subjective, completely based around my own experiences and enjoyments, which will obviously vary from person to person. <br><br><br>I am not a fan of the whole “don’t text until 2 days after we met” or “I need at least 6 dates before I [insert action here]”. This makes it so that women don’t seem genuine, because they would never put men through this. It doesn’t feel like they’re completely up front with themselves as to why they want these arbitrary wait times. It’s as if the answer to that question is so embarrassing they wouldn’t dare admit it to themselves or anyone else. It causes an extreme lack of genuine communication in getting to know one another. <br><br><br>Ghosting is way too common. It’s as if they think they’re doing something to hurt us by doing this. In reality, it only hurts them. It makes them seem incredibly shallow. Would you rather say nothing and leave me wondering why, or tell me directly that you’re not interested? The lack of communication is staggering. <br><br><br>Saying nothing is okay. Women do this *far* too often. If I call you beautiful, or say a compliment, the conversation should not end. I just gave you a compliment. The polite thing to do would be to say thanks. Is it not rude to say nothing at all? <br><br><br>Stop playing games. Stop avoiding dates just to mess with a man’s head, and to make it seem like you’re choosing when the next date is. This doesn’t do anything but create animosity, and less trust. <br><br><br>I’ve had women say “I get to choose when we meet up, because I’m a woman.” When I said “no”, they said “well, it’s not a real date unless I tell you when and where to meet, so it’s not a date until I decide”. <br><br><br>I would also like to know your interpretation of “no”. Because when I say no, it means that I’m not going to do it. For women it seems to mean “convince me otherwise, because the first no is meaningless”. <br><br><br>Actually care about the man you’re on a date with. I’ve gone on countless dates with girls who don’t ask a single question about me, but I’m expected to care about what’s going on in their life. I’ve been on dates where I don’t say a single word. The woman will talk about herself the entire time, and then text me the next day angry that I didn’t say anything. <br><br><br>I don’t want to be your “friend with benefits.” I’ve gone on several dates with women, we’ve hooked up, and they just friend zone me. I’m expected to still be nice to them, but I’m free to leave whenever I want, I don’t get the luxury of hooking up with them whenever I want, and most importantly, they will get mad at the drop of a pin at the mention of dating other people. <br><br><br>Stop treating men like we owe you something just for going on a date. If I take you out to a nice restaurant, I expect you to be grateful, and show some level of appreciation. I’m not owed anything, but I expect basic human decency. <br><br><br>I think the major problem with a lot of these things is that women don’t talk to each other about these issues. They don’t see a problem with the things I’ve outlined. They don’t think there’s anything wrong with it. <br><br><br>So, how would you change the way women approach dating?

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