I can't believe it all goes away once your wife has kids.
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Hello gentlemen, first time logger here. I'm a former MGTOW that settled down with a woman I had known since high school and married her. I thought she was the love of my life. I even got a vasectomy thinking my woman was the one and that I could work with her to create our little happy existence together and never need to settle down with kids as long as she was happy. She made 80k a year and I make 200k a year. I thought we were good.<br><br>We settled down and were incredibly happy until she turned 30. It was like clockwork. I met her when she was 18. She was an outspoken feminist who laughed at the idea of women ever really wanting to be stay at home moms. She wanted to work her way up in her career, and I was happy to do so as well in mine. We lived in the city and had a great time for many years. But as soon as she turned 30 I noticed a change in her. A month later she said she wanted to be a SAHM? I thought she was being sarcastic. I asked if she was serious. I said I had a vasectomy, we would have to go through months of fertility treatment and that I was happy making a lot of money for her. She burst into tears and said that she was just watching TV and saw a commercial with that sad musical theme of a kid sitting in a classroom and I guess it made her sad. She didn't want to be separated from her hypothetical kid. I thought she was joking but this made our relationship plummet. She was so sad and asked me why I got a vasectomy. I said I got it for her. It was a gentlemen's agreement. I didn't want to be a dad and she agreed with it. It was on the same day we got married that I had it done.<br><br>A year later she left. I came home and she wasn't there. Turns out while I was working with my head down she found her old high school BF on Facebook and ended up back in love with him. He never wanted kids but she said that for some reason it didn't bother her as much as it did with me. I demanded to know why and she said that she couldn't date her husband anymore. She was happy to date her boyfriend again and that it didn't matter if that meant not having kids. It was hard for me to understand as it was a 180 degree shift in her behavior. I knew her well. She never really had to deal with puberty. She was a gymnast her whole life and has a childlike innocence. She doesn't really know how to be angry. All she knows how to do is cry. She was a cardiogram tech and she wasn't getting any younger. <br><br>I'm 40 now. I've been dating many women since then. I've always been good with women and I think I'm better looking than your average guy. I know how to dress and get fat checks. I'm in a high paying field and wear good cologne. This puts me in the 5% of all men who gets to choose in the dating scene. <br><br>I've dated many women since but it's all changed. My last girlfriend before my wife was 25. I was 35. She seemed to be TOTALLY different than any woman I had dated before. She seemed like a child. My wife now is 25. She seems to be an actual child. Everybody pokes fun at TikTok and how it's an awful social glue trap that is creating low value and entitled women. But I swear to God if you don't believe it by now you're not paying attention. I've been around the block. I've dated women all my life. There was no hard shift in women before that I can remember. But it seems that cardiogram tech made all the money she wanted while she was young, and now she's 37 and has two kids.<br><br>It's almost like I was naive thinking she would still be her when I married her. I thought marriage was supposed to bring you closer together. It's not. I mean long term marriages exist. I guess some women don't change. But I'm not confident that cardiogram tech is. I find myself as a 40 year old man dating millenials. When I came out of the closet I felt like a total loser. It felt like what a loser does. My wife slept with her boyfriend while we were married. I don't think she ever loved me. It was hard to believe that a woman I dated and loved for so long looked at me with straight contempt. At the time I thought I was doing everything right and I was right to think that. I did nothing wrong. <br><br>I'm good with women. I know how to get any woman I want and I'm not that good looking. I'm pretty confident and I know how to keep women happy. But I can tell that they don't like me. You can tell when people don't like you and a lot of women don't like that I'm a player. They want us players to be the cardiogram tech's ex-boyfriend, the worthless high school drop out boyfriend. The kind that she can be a SAHM for. They love to put us down. I got a text from one the other day that I was a "bro" and cardiogram tech was just a "sister" to me. That wasn't true. She was an entirely different woman. Someday they're going to stop being the love of your life and start being your sister. They can't be both. I had a girlfriend when I was 19 that I dated for 5 years. She was as ambitious and smart as cardiogram tech was. We were both students and I knew that if things didn't work out that it didn't matter much. We didn't have any real direction in life to go our separate ways.<br><br>Sometime along the way it changed greatly. We went from being humble and making fun of the men we were dating to being the girl boss bosses that will get rich one day but TOTALLY won't get married and have kids. A lot of women made 80k a year, many of them get rich and make 300k now. They all want to be stay at home moms. I don't think there's much to say about it, but that I knew about it and I still went through with it. I think I just went through with it to believe I was right. That some women don't change. But yes, we're our own problem here. We don't get to choose in the dating market against women we don't want to date (because they're all the same) and expect to find a good person to love that isn't all narcissistic and dependent on us TOTALLY. I know women are women, but at least if they don't change then our lives will be better off than what happens when they do. I met my cardiogram tech at 18. We dated from 18. We got married at 30. We started dating again at 35. We were married TOTALLY happy for 5 years. Then she turned 35. And our relationship went straight down the toilet. It was like magic. Magic that wore off. I'm still looking. I'm still dating. My cardiogram tech has a baby girl. I heard it's the most beautiful thing ever. She got to work while she was young and see the world and buy the best things in life and have a happy career and travel to Paris and have all her questions answered. And now she's a SAHM with a child. She was a feminist that was a proponent of abortion. But she wasn't a feminist that wanted that for all women. There's a difference. She had a kid for herself. My cardiogram tech is a gold-digging narcissist that only had a kid so that she could have her own personal servants.<br><br>I know all of that, but I'm still looking. I still have to seek out cardiogram techs. I want to find one that doesn't change. But I think they've all changed.
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