You all need to stop obsessing over women.

There is so much angst and bitterness on this sub, and I’m not sure it’s actually helping anyone. It’s like you guys take your woman-hating to the same level of obsessiveness usually reserved for teenage boys and their sex addiction. I don’t understand how you can call yourselves “going your own way” when you obviously spend so much time fixated on things you can’t change.<br><br>&#x200B;<br><br>I’m not sure if what I’m describing here applies to all MGTOW, or just those in this sub, but from what I’ve seen in this sub, MGTOW isn’t going to “win” some grand social victory. Nothing about the way you carry yourselves comes across as dignified or inspiring. You’re certainly not doing any convincing with your incessant whining. Not only have I never seen a single MGTOW post that wasn’t whiny AF, but I also can’t remember a time when I saw a post with 1k+ upvotes that *wasn’t* whiny AF. If you want to create a mass social movement, you need to inspire people. All I see you inspire are eye-rolls.<br><br>&#x200B;<br><br>As long as you waste your time bemoaning women and how they’ve ruined your life, you’re still their bitch. This is why the “you can’t call us losers because we’re rejecting the system” line of thinking is so dumb. Yes, we absolutely can and should call you losers, because even if you reject the system, you still haven’t moved on with your lives. You still refuse to move on with your lives. You can’t know any other life than the one in which you’re a victim of women. The only thing you actually reject is taking personal responsibility for your own happiness.<br><br>&#x200B;<br><br>How do you face your deaths still fixated on something you can’t change? Do you all really think that on your deathbeds, any of you will think “you know what was truly important in my life? All those bitches I complained about for decades.” You all desperately need to grow up and start taking responsibility for your own lives. This isn’t the “women’s” fault. This is your fault for not taking responsibility for your own lives.<br><br>&#x200B;<br><br>Stop wasting your time being bitches in your bedrooms pretending you’re rebels. If you want to rebel, go out and travel, go do something amazing with your life, find a new hobby, work on your own personal physical and mental health, do anything but this. This isn’t rebellion; this is just you being a bitch.<br><br>&#x200B;<br><br>Stop going your own way like a bitch, and go your own way like someone who has their shit together, you know what I mean? Enjoy life, do what makes you happy. I’m not saying it’s easy to do these things, but fixate on the struggle if you must, just don’t fixate on your perceived losses and disappointments. No one cares about your losses. No one cares that you got rejected a bunch of times in high school. No one cares that you got divorced, or your brother got divorced, or your best friend got divorced. No one cares that you can’t get laid. No one cares that you can’t get a second date. No one cares that you can’t find a nice woman. No one cares that every woman you’ve ever met has been the anti-Christ. No one cares that you think women have it easier. No one cares that you resent the fact that women will always need a man more than vice versa.<br><br>&#x200B;<br><br>If you refuse to take responsibility for your own life, then you are 100% not going your own way. You are still on the same path you’ve always been on, and you always will be. Going your own way would mean that you accept you can’t change the world in the way you want, and you will never be able to. Instead of bemoaning what you think you are owed, you go out and do what you can with what life has given you. That’s the actual red-pill, and no I don’t mean the hyper-masculine rage version of the red-pill, I mean this one.<br><br>&#x200B;<br><br>I swear, you guys talk a whole bunch of shit about feminists for not wanting to take personal responsibility for their own lives, but then you do the exact same thing and somehow manage to convince yourselves that you’re in the right here.<br><br>&#x200B;<br><br>You’re not. You’re not any better than any feminist, or any woman, or anything like that. You’re just people who can’t grow up and move on with their lives.<br><br>&#x200B;<br><br>This is my main problem with this sub and with MGTOW. If you cut all the whining and bitterness out, I might actually agree with some of the core tenets of MGTOW (I haven’t really read that much, and I’m not really sympathetic to this movement), but as long as you people approach it in the way you do, I think you’re all better off dead. I’m not killing you or anything, but I think we’d all be better off without the vast majority of you.<br><br>&#x200B;<br><br>So either fix your shit or get out of my way.