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CMV: Communism is the future when it is the global default, but this may well be to the detriment of humanity.

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\---<br><br>This is a repost as I posted an hour before the next mod round and received very little engagement. I thought I’d get it out while I can at the best spot and when I best have time to respond to comments.<br><br>\---<br><br>One of our students is doing a project on the economy and is going to interview me. I have a pretty firm view, which is Communism is the future for Mankind. I’m hoping you all can change that. Thank you, you all have done so for other topics I’ve posted on here.<br><br>When I say this, I mean the systems of supply, trade, and production will be dictated by an understanding of its necessity to humanity and the environment. How it is done is not important to me, that it will be done is however.<br><br>So why do I think that it’s the future, but also bad for humanity? The best people to explain this are Marx-Engels. They talk about what happens when Communism is achieved. From Marx-Engels, Manifesto of the Communist Party: <br><br>> When, in the course of development, class distinctions have disappeared, and all production has been concentrated in the hands of a vast association of the whole nation, the public power will lose its political character. Political power, properly so called, is merely the organized power of one class for oppressing another. If the proletariat in its contest with the bourgeoisie is compelled, by the force of circumstances, to organize itself as a class, if, by means of a revolution, it makes itself the ruling class, and, as such, sweeps away by force the old conditions of production, then it will, along with these conditions, have swept away the conditions for the existence of class antagonisms and of classes generally, and will thereby have abolished its own supremacy as a class.<br><br>> In place of the old bourgeois society, with its classes and class antagonisms, we shall have an association in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all.<br><br>> Capitalist production, therefore, develops, with the accumulation of capital, a special agency for this purpose—the credit system—and it develops it in the same measure in which this accumulation takes place.<br><br>If you read Marx, he will tell you that Communism is not a dictatorship, nor as many will claim a monarchy. That Communism under a Republic is actually a resurgance of Capitalism. Communism does not mean a philosophical-ideological regime like China (which is actually Capitalist), or like Venezuela/Vietnam where there is a serious separation between the leaders and the people. Communism to them is like Anarchy, a state where there is no real government like we know it. It is an end to an oppressive state. The government exists to shield the ruling class. It is where the State has an oppressive power and controls a lot of the economy in the name of the people, and frequently (if not always) is diametrically opposed to what the best interests of the people actually are. <br><br>Another example for you:<br><br>> The State is the Government of the ruling class. The proletariat cannot conquer state power in the same manner that the bourgeoisie did.<br><br>- Lenin<br><br>So now let's look at the other side, why I think it may be to the detriment of humanity. Most of us actually believe that humanity is at its best when it is a Republic with a strong-armed,but fair State, protecting its citizens. It is a philosophical debate, as well as moral to say which way is better really. I think it is a conflict between individual rights, and communal rights really. Once you have Communism, it is hard if not impossible to place a republic back in place. This is because Communism is a project of the people, for the people, by the people. It’s not something you can just impose on a nation or a people unless perhaps they are already going through a revolution. Why is that bad for humanity? Well, I think humans have always been happy when they have individual rights and responsibilities, and that under Communism this can be suppressed. Humans are happiest under a Communism when they are acting in their best best communal interests, not individual. A strict, fair Republic may well be better for humanity when it is capable of protecting individual rights and expressions. Communism is like a wholescale change to the paradigm in which society operates. All of us born under republics or dictatorships are taught that it is essential to have individual protections and rights. Communism destroys that in the name of communal freedoms. Communism under Marx-Engels is actually an end state, not an ongoing process. Communism does not mean a philosophical-ideological regime like China (which is actually Capitalist), or like Venezuela/Vietnam where there is a serious separation between the leaders and the people. Communism to them is like Anarchy, a state where there is no real government like we know it. It is an end to an oppressive state. The government exists to shield the ruling class. It is where the State has an oppressive power and controls a lot of the economy in the name of the people, and frequently (if not always) is diametrically opposed to what the best interests of the people actually are. Communism is not a dictatorship, nor as many will claim a monarchy. That Communism under a Republic is actually a resurgance of Capitalism. The State is the Government of the ruling class. The proletariat cannot conquer state power in the same manner that the bourgeoisie did.<br><br>I believe that it will happen- Communism will be the future when it is the global default. I’m not sure how humans will adapt to it, but it is neither here nor there. Also, you shouldn’t say to me “well this has been tried before”, as I’m convinced that it has never been tried in the way I believe Marx-Engels have described it.<br><br>Edit: Wow, thank you guys. I’ll respond sometime over the weekend. I’d like to say that at this point my viewpoint hasn’t changed, but I’ve had a lot to think about. I think you’ve all given me a lot to think about, so thank you guys.

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