Most guys who are in the "Friend Zone" aren't even in the "Friend Zone," they're in the "Oh God, not this fucker again" Zone

I've had a few conversations from this sub that were very eye-opening, and I just had to make a thread about it.<br><br>Apparently, there is this massive societal delusion that we (Women) put guys in a box we call the "Friend Zone". A box full of guys who would otherwise be eligible and are often very nice, but we just don't find sexually attractive enough to date.<br><br>You know what? That's a fucking lie. It's a huge fucking lie. Most "Nice Guys" aren't even in the damn friend zone most of the time.<br><br>Most of the time, we aren't even friend zoned. We're just blocked. We're just ignored. We're just ghosted. Why? Because most of you "Friend-Zoned" guys are just not a fucking catch. You're not even a fucking person. You're a fucking placeholder, a Plan Z, a "fuck, I guess I'll give this slob a chance because I'm desperate" contingency plan.<br><br>And don't even get me started on "Nice Guys". Fuck, I hate that term. That term just makes me want to puke. You're not a nice guy. If you were a nice guy, you would just be happy being friends. But no, you want something in return. You want your fucking cookie, your participation medal, your prize for doing absolute bare fucking minimum.<br><br>You want us to give you a chance because you're "Nice", but really you want us to give you a chance because you're sure that you can get what you want from us if we just give you a chance. But we aren't going to fucking give you a chance, because most of you "friend zoned" guys are just fucking creeps, or slobby losers, or just not someone we're attracted to.<br><br>And if we DO decide to give you a chance, you'll just switch immediately into fucking creep mode. "Oh, you gave me a chance? Well, now I'm just gonna be a dick to you because you're now my property, my prize, my fucking cookie that I can do whatever I want with."<br><br>Fuck you.<br><br>Edit: Gold? What the actual fuck?<br><br>Edit no. 2: Okay, so I've gotten a lot of comments from guys like me. You know what? I'm sorry if this hurt you, but the sad reality is that most of you are just fucking awful, in the same kind of way that most guys who get laid are also fucking awful.<br><br>But you know what? I'm gonna give you some advice. Instead of complaining, work on yourself. Fix yourself. Fix your mindset. Fix your attitude. Fix your fucking hygiene. Fix your fucking clothes. Go fucking work out. Go fucking eat healthy. Go fucking do something about it.<br><br>Stop blaming fucking Women for your problems. We don't owe you anything. Fuck, I don't even owe you this fucking post.<br><br>Why should I give you a chance? What have you done to fucking deserve a chance?<br><br>And if you did manage to get a chance with someone, don't fucking squander it by acting like a fucking creep. Treat them fucking right, goddammit.<br><br>Now if you'll excuse me, I have better things to do than talk with a fucking bunch of fucking losers all day.